Today’s SEO tip: if you need to create buzz, just add “uncucked.” You’ll get people talking, even if you don’t get them understanding.
From Facebook we see many comments: here is a small sampling. (Names changed to protect the
TWITCHBOTTOM SPARKLEFART: Doesn’t sound like “Odinists” though…they are straight-up neonazi. This is more like…what? 8chan heathenism
GENERICA TUMBLR: That crumples my soul. My soul is crumpled now. Thanks.CUCK YEAGER: Mine is growing spurs. You think bone spurs hurt? Try soul spurs.
The fact that some Asatru practitioners were Volkish was annoying, But i knew plenty of counter examples.
This shit, trying to unite Pagans under an Alt-Right banner enrages me.*****SUBBETA CUCKMANN, ESQ.: This…article …is so fucked on so many levels it is easy to lose sight of one or two fucked up sentences in the overwhelming headlights of vacous crap, to plagarize tim minchin. Misogynistic pseudocreationist patriarcal rascist rightwing extremist classist…the atempt to catagorize is depressing me.
As a Traditionalist, I’m always happy to turn to the past for insight about the present. I didn’t need to look very far at all to find a useful quote from one of 20th century England’s greatest prophets:
What was slightly horrible, was that from the stream of sound that poured out of his mouth it was almost impossible to distinguish a single word. Just once Winston caught a phrase —‘complete and final elimination of Goldsteinism’— jerked out very rapidly and, as it seemed, all in one piece, like a line of type cast solid. For the rest it was just a noise, a quack-quack-quacking. And yet, though you could not actually hear what the man was saying, you could not be in any doubt about its general nature. He might be denouncing Goldstein and demanding sterner measures against thought-criminals and saboteurs, he might be fulminating against the atrocities of the Eurasian army, he might be praising Big Brother or the heroes on the Malabar front — it made no difference. Whatever it was, you could be certain that every word of it was pure orthodoxy, pure Ingsoc. As he watched the eyeless face with the jaw moving rapidly up and down, Winston had a curious feeling that this was not a real human being but some kind of dummy. It was not the man’s brain that was speaking, it was his larynx. The stuff that was coming out of him consisted of words, but it was not speech in the true sense: it was a noise uttered in unconsciousness, like the quacking of a duck.
On a more positive note, Tahni J. Nikitins has offered a very interesting critical analysis of the AFA’s policy in the comments section of our maiden post. Her entire response is well worth a read: I’ve pulled out a few points for discussion here.
I asked how many People of Color had spoken up about the Asatru Folk Assembly’s policies and noted that, in my experience, Asatru and Heathen events — not to mention Pagan events in general — tend to be overwhelmingly White. She replied:
Not hearing them doesn’t mean they’re not there, or even that someone may have had their interest piqued but backed off before they got really dedicated because they got wind that they weren’t welcome because the concentration of melanin in their skin is too high. Not to mention that people generally tend to not make many real attempt to get involved with an organization who makes it so plainly obvious that they’re not to welcome your efforts of involvement (specifically as you cited, the AFA). Why waste the energy only to be met at best by passive aggressive dismissals or at worst verbal violence?
I have no doubt many People of Color feel intimidated about attending Heathen events thanks to all the bad publicity about Odinist Nazis and suchlike. But I don’t see Universalist Heathens doing outreach to recruit People of Color. (And dear Gods I hope I don’t: the last thing Polytheism needs to steal from Monotheism is proselytizing). Nor have I seen People of Color complaining about Tribalist and Folkish Heathens. What I do see is a lot of de facto lily-white organizations virtue signalling by pointing the fingers at de jure lily-white organizations and calling out their racist admittance policies. And I think that’s something worth exploring. Does this campaign end with multicultural hofs throughout America — or does it end with a lot of self-satisfied white people congratulating themselves on how non-racist they are?
Small numbers of people of color being affected by the discriminatory practices in some pagan groups or by the highly racialized propaganda those groups peddle isn’t an excuse to not call out such bullshit where it occurs, just like the historical fact that old pagan religions (Norse or otherwise) didn’t conquer the world with their religion and mostly kept to tribal religious practices isn’t an excuse to not call out bullshit in modern day paganism, which is not the same as the paganism of the days of yore by virtue of existing in the modern world.
What do you mean by “calling out?” I have no problem with heated discussions between Polytheists: it’s not like the Classical World didn’t have numerous competing philosophical schools and there’s certainly plenty of disagreement, discussion and debate beneath the umbrella the West calls Hinduism. But if we’re talking about the total war tactics Galina Krasskova discussed in a recent post on her blog then you can count me out.
Nikitins offers some interesting documentation on ethnicity and intermarriage in Heathen society, and makes a very good case that Norse society was not so exclusionary as many Folkish Heathens might claim: again, all her comments are well worth a read. But I must admit to some trepidation at this section.
If [AFA members] truly are descended from Vikings, there’s a reasonably good chance they have dark-skinned ancestors (again: all that intermarrying and interbreeding) not to mention the whole fuckton of archeological and genetic evidence that supports the Out of Africa Theory. In short: ancestor veneration seems like a very silly thing to do if a person just patently refuses to acknowledge the diversity of their ancestors. If they called it “selective veneration” I might be less prone to highlight the ridiculousness of their stance based on the historical and genetic facts because at least then they’re being honest about it. I’d still call it bullshit, though.
I see the point, but I’ve also seen the “Out of Africa” theory used for some pretty unsavory purposes. Afrocentric organizations who want to reserve membership to People of Color are regularly classified as “racist” and reminded “we all come from Africa.” (Which is true, but some of us have a harder time catching a cab and an easier time catching a police bullet). The SPLC has begun listing Black Separatists as “Hate Groups” using much the same reasoning used against the Asatru Folk Assembly. Their mere espousal of unpalatable ideas is enough to land them on the SPLC’s bad guy list, with no evidence given that any of these ideas have ever resulted in actual antiwhite violence. I think there is a real need for Afrocentric organizations and for PoC-only space. And I think it would behoove Pagans and Polytheists of all political persuasions to support that right — even if it means tolerating sloppy scholarship and occasional embarrassing Facebook posts from people who want Northern Europeans-only space.
Keep an eye on this space for posts from other Polytheists, and for more commentary on past, current and future affairs. We’re still in our infancy but things are growing faster than we could ever have hoped. Until next time stay uncucked and remember: the Gods are Real, the Gods are Many, the Gods are Here.